Revolut withholds $90,000 from investment manager with “no real response” for months
UK-based fintech, Revolut, is facing fresh allegations of unjustified fund freezes as one private equity investment manager only received his $90,000 bank transfer made in January last week.
In this exclusive investigative feature, the investment manager, who wishes to be referred to simply as Mr. Chen, tells FinTech Futures about his battle to receive the $90,000, which only became available to him on the eve of 26 March – the original date of publication for this piece. Now, the investment manager struggles to close his account in order to put Revolut behind him as the app crashes with an error message.
FinTech Futures obtained correspondence with Mr. Chen and various Revolut chatbot agents, in addition to the email correspondence received on 23 March from the Financial Ombudsman and Revolut.
Although Mr. Chen has received his money following the added pressure by the Ombudsman, he is one of the lucky ones. Several Revolut clients remain in the dark about receiving their funds as noted on various groups on Reddit, Twitter and Facebook, in addition to reporting by FinTech Futures, the Financial Times, The Telegraph and The Times.
“I’ve never experienced anything like this”
Mr. Chen, a UK-based private equity investment manager with a corporate law background, is no stranger to fintech.
“I’m very familiar with fintechs, challenger banks and the various tech ecosystems in China and the US. But my experience with Revolut is so appalling – I’ve never experienced anything like this,” he tells FinTech Futures.
He signed up with Revolut back in 2015. “I wasn’t a very frequent user. Like many of their users, I used the app to exchange different currencies when I travelled to Europe.”
The $90,000 was “a loan from the company of which I’m one of the major shareholders,” he says. As a personal account customer of the fintech for over five years, Mr. Chen trusted Revolut with the funds.
“The current situation is very embarrassing as I had to explain the situation to other shareholders and find alternative financial resource to repay the company!”
In January, the $90,000 payment was made from the company’s corporate bank account to his personal Revolut account. “I could have received it through my HSBC account, but Revolut had a more favourable rate.”
“Every time it’s a different person”
On 19 January 2021, his corporate US-based bank sent Mr. Chen’s funds to its intermediary bank in Europe. The intermediary took 10 days to check the origination of their funds for their standard know your customer (KYC) and due diligence checks. “I even received double confirmation from [my US bank] and [European intermediary] that the funds were released on 2 February, so I was expecting money to show up at any time…but then nothing happened.”
He soon realised there was a problem and tried to contact Revolut. “There was no proper channel. Their phone number is an automated answer machine, which is not helpful, and there was some action through their app chat, so I tried that, provided all the details, but there was no meaningful reply. It was always ‘we will be looking at it’ or ‘our team is on it just be patient’ one time after another.”
Mr. Chen provided FinTech Futures with screenshots of the chat with the Revolut correspondents and can confirm there was no singular case manager or account manager. “Every time it’s a different person – it’s like they will pick up and look at the chat history and update you when they feel like it,” he says. In total, Mr. Chen was in contact with over 21 different chat agents since the saga began.
Correspondence with his US bank, which FinTech Futures also obtained, shows that the transfer was made on 19 January. Mr. Chen shared his concern about the funds’ whereabouts with his corporate US bank on 27 January as the intermediary bank in Europe conducted its checks without any prior notification.
Unjust enrichment
The European intermediary bank cleared its checks on 2 February and notified his US corporate bank about the release of funds on the same day. Still having no response from Revolut about his funds, Mr. Chen began his conversation with Revolut’s customer service chat on 8 February.
The response, received on the 9 February by a Revolut chat agent, reads: “International (Swift) transfers take up to one-to-three working days.”
Since the message noted that it “might depend on the sending bank”, Mr. Chen decided to simultaneously email his corporate US bank about the issue on 10 February, where the US bank’s relationship advisor submits a “trace request to the wire team”.
Following communication with the Revolut chat agent on 10 February that blamed it on “not being a Swift transfer” when it was in fact, executed via Swift, the agent suggested a recall of the funds. Mr. Chen contacted his US corporate bank relationship advisor to action this plan.
However, the recall message did not go from the US bank to Revolut. In fact, the message from the US bank went via their European intermediary bank and on to another bank – Barclays. Although Barclays was “unable to comment on this occasion”, Revolut confirmed to FinTech Futures, that “as an authorised institution, Revolut safeguards client funds as per regulatory requirements. Client funds are stored in a segregated account held with a Tier-1 partner bank (Barclays/Lloyds).”
On 17 February, Mr. Chen’s US bank escalated the issue and requested a cancellation to Barclays via authenticated Swift, to consider the payment null and void and remit funds. “Kindly consider this our initial claim for unjust enrichment,” read the message. As defined by legal research firm LexisNexis, a claim based on unjust enrichment “seeks to restore to an innocent party the gains that someone else has obtained from them. It is part of the equitable remedy of restitution”.
The US bank did not hear back from Barclays or Revolut.
“WHAT!”
Having thought the funds could potentially be with Barclays, several weeks past with silence until Revolut provided Mr. Chen with a surprising response. “The payment was received on 12th. The relevant team already escalated this to a more specific team to check if we can process this payment and credit your account,” the Revolut agent says.
“I was like, ‘WHAT!’. Even before that, no one confirmed anything! Even on the chat on 1 March they said, ‘no money had arrived – it must be an issue with the sender bank’,” says Mr. Chen.
“The money arrived three weeks ago at this point, and I was asking every day to no real response as they revert back to me on ‘auto mode’. I was asking every day – who is it? Where is the money? When is it processed?”
All chat agents responded with the same message since 2 March, stating, “as much as I wish I could resolve this all for you myself this very moment, I’m afraid we need to wait for any further info from the relevant team of experts who should be able to help here way more”. Mr. Chen took the issue up with the Financial Ombudsman, threatening Revolut with legal action on 12 March. The fintech provided a link to an online form for him to make a complaint, noting that it would take them 15 calendar days to issue a final response.
Revolut’s complaints department sent Mr. Chen an email stating that it “received [his] complaint on the 10 March 2021”, that the transfer, sent on 2 February for a total of $90,000, “did not arrive in [his] account within the estimated timeframe of five working days”, and that “the case was escalated internally to our Payment Investigations team, which is currently conducting a detailed analysis on the matter”.
The email also stated that “[his] funds did reach Revolut’s system, but it appears that due to an error in the format of the transaction data, we simply could not accept the funds and process them into your account”. However, none of the chat agents referred to a payments investigation team, nor did they mention any transaction errors. Revolut tells FinTech Futures that, “this format error also delayed our team from locating the payment initially, and we apologise for the lack of clarity that was provided by some of our customer support team”.
It also claimed that it referred to its banking partner to revert the funds on 18 March 2021. However, as confirmed by Mr. Chen’s US corporate bank, no such confirmation was received, and no recall messages were answered. “So, as a result, the money was still missing, and Revolut failed to indicate if, and when, my money could be recovered,” says Mr. Chen.
Although Mr. Chen has since received his funds as of 26 March, he is now unable to cancel the account. “There is an option to cancel it, but after several stages, it shows the error message,” he says. “They don’t have my trust anymore.”
Big red flag
As a lawyer and investment manager with fintechs in his portfolio, Mr. Chen finds that companies treating customers like this would “be a big red flag”.
“It doesn’t matter how fancy your slogans and visuals are. If customers are unhappy because you lack basic services, then your business obviously has a serious problem,” he adds. The Ombudsman tells FinTech Futures that in June-December 2020, “we received 985 new Revolut complaints”.
“We expect all e-money firms to take appropriate steps to ensure customers are treated fairly before, during and after the point of sale of a product,” a FCA spokesperson tells FinTech Futures.
“Even if firms are offering a primarily online or online only service, customers should be able to engage quickly and easily to raise enquires and complaints, and responded to in an appropriate manner and timeframe,” they add.
“On occasion, accounts may be frozen while firms look into possible financial crime concerns with an account such as seeking to make sure an account hasn’t been compromised. However, we expect firms to provide effective and reliable means for customers to contact them regarding any concerns about using their accounts.”
Revolut complaints
“I was going to take it to the courts – I didn’t see any other option,” says Mr. Chen. FinTech Futures spoke to Florin Hrituliac, a Revolut personal account customer in Romania, who tried to transfer RON 20,000 ($4,832.68) from his company’s bank account to his Revolut account on 9 September 2020, but was unable to access these funds. Hrituliac has since raised a lawsuit in Romania to access his funds and advises others to join the legal action.
FinTech Futures spoke to one such person considering legal action either by joining Hrituliac’s action or raising a new case in the UK. The customer, who wishes to remain anonymous, was a Romanian premium personal account user whose account – in addition to his son’s account (a UK-based student) – was blocked in September 2020.
In September 2020, the Financial Times spoke to a UK Revolut account user, Richard Walker, who had his account suspended after a £150,000 transfer from a friend.
“As a lawyer and now a full-time parent, Walker was aware that banks and electronic banking apps are required by the Proceeds of Crime Act 2002 to monitor accounts for money laundering and fraudulent activity,” notes the FT. “A large sum being paid in from a foreign account looked suspicious. He decided to contact his bank to explain.”
In another case reported by The Times in February 2020, Revolut suspended and subsequently closed a business account containing €300,000 belonging to Priorité Energie, which “helps low-income families in Paris to insulate their homes under a government initiative”, preventing the company from paying its staff.
In January last year, The Daily Telegraph reported that Revolut suspended an account containing £90,000 for more than two months, and that another customer travelled 500 miles from Auvergne in France to Revolut’s London offices in an unsuccessful attempt to recover £15,000 in an account that Revolut had similarly frozen without an articulated justification.
Although Mr. Chen speculated that it may be down to anti-money laundering (AML) system failures, Revolut states that: “Mr. Chen’s Revolut account and funds were not locked or withheld during this period and the delay was not caused by understaffing, backlogs or KYC/AML checks, but by a transaction data format error on the part of one of the intermediary banks or the sending bank. Revolut is not suffering from understaffing (or undue delays in KYC checks). We have sophisticated methods and very high standards of AML protection, although that is not relevant to this case which arose from a technical issue”.
Thankfully Mr. Chen was in receipt of funds on 26 March, and he did not need to file legal action, but with an increase in customer complaints last year and legal cases being pursued elsewhere, lasting concerns remain regarding Revolut’s capacity to cater efficiently to its ever-expanding userbase.
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It is not just Revolut. Transferwise, Tide freeze accounts or do not receive funds.
My company and I currently have 30 thousand € locked at Transferwise, no communication or a satisfactory reason given.
Although AML and the crime act are in place it is known that challenger bank withhold frequently for up to 60 days (Transferwise TOS)
This seems to be systematic and an underlying threat to businesses and individuals.
This is why cryptocurrency is a better option for sending funds.
No middle men
I had the exact same issue – in the end I took them to small claims court in the UK – they never replied so I won be default and they contacted me a few weeks after and paid out in full.
Revolut also refused to help me when defrauded by one of their own customers saying it was my fault. They are amateurs that need serious investigating.
Salut
I would like to add my experience too. It was horrific and I would encourage a campaign to expose Revoluts criminal acts. I had to fight for months to release funds received from my solicitor even after providing all the requested documents. Revolut are acting like the Russian KGB and deserve to be exposed so the public is warned of the high risks involved allowing them to store your money.
I had similar problem. The bank I sent the funds from tried by all means to have the funds transferred back to them and partially managed that. In the end I gave up and used the remaining funds in Revolut for various payments and expenses. Now I am extremely cautious about the amount I transfer to Revolut as it seems it gets flagged if its over 10k (even if you warn them beforehand and ask for assurance it is OK and won’t get blocked). But a very handy service if you are dealing in multiple currency. Shame.
I had same sort of problem with Transferwise now Wise. I exposed to Financial Ombudsmen and I ll bring them to Court . They are all the same they use client’s funds to support their weak balance.
Same here! Waiting for months 7k and everyone there is a different answer. One time they told me that the account is closed and I can transfer out my money. The other time they are checking documents. Be consistent. And at least respond on messages!
I advice everyone to never hold more then just a few bucks on your revolut. How the hell can they just do this. Lithuanian Bank also does not help you with the complaint.
I have had similar experiences. A lot of the new ‘fintech’ companies lead with amazing headline exchange rates and are purely focused on keeping costs low to provide those rates but as soon as something goes wrong that’s when the problems start. I wouldn’t trust a financial company if there is not at least some human interaction.
So many horror stories. I use VFX FInancial and never had a problem. Rates are as good if not better than Rev or Transferwise, a personal account manager on the phone – and very fast transfers.
They have frozen my account asking me for proof of where my money has come from. I sent this via lawyer letter and confirmation of it going into my uk bank. That wasnt enough. They wanted to know bank balances of everyone who has ever sent me money and where they get their money from. Wtaf!
I have a similar problem. They were asking for all bank transactions during past 3 months and the balance from savings account. I had to show all the sales I made during the past three months. When I told the agent that they asking way too much information he just shut the chat on me and restricted my account. “ by now your account is currently under the verification process. Until the other team has finished their work, I’m not able to make it fully operative again. I’m really sorry about your inconvenience. We will contact you as soon as it will be possible.“ no response 3 days already
The almost exact same thing happened here. I had a similar amount of money deposited on the account. AML process took more than four months. I had provided the entire ridiculous amount of questions and documents asked for in an instant. I spoke to at least a dozen different support agents during the process. At some point they had my account frozen for multiple weeks without any feedback or chance to speak to anyone. All communication takes place in the app only.
My trust in this “bank” is zero.
I lost £1408 by Revolut. They have no explanation to where my money is and they refuse to take responsibility. They have instead closed my account telling me I’m in “breach of their terms and conditions “ and they have not bothered to specify what terms and conditions I breached. Pathetic bank and their licence needs to be cancelled.